{"id":3123,"date":"2016-09-26T12:09:16","date_gmt":"2016-09-26T17:09:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/?p=3123"},"modified":"2017-01-16T15:14:57","modified_gmt":"2017-01-16T20:14:57","slug":"very-little-faith-in-strava-rankings-unreliable-gps-variance-may-be-to-blame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/2016\/09\/26\/very-little-faith-in-strava-rankings-unreliable-gps-variance-may-be-to-blame\/","title":{"rendered":"Very little faith left in Strava rankings.  GPS variance may be to blame."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Got some first hand experience in the reliability of Strava rankings this weekend.\u00a0 Might be due to GPS variance but there may be more to it.\u00a0 Data collection and analysis may have something to do with it too.\u00a0 Either way, myself and others know the truth as of this weekends results.\u00a0 I give you exhibit A, a segment known as Riverview KOM.\u00a0 This is the result of my riding partners upload.\u00a0\u00a0 Notice anything strange?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3124\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3124\" style=\"width: 469px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RiverviewKOM.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3124 \" title=\"RiverviewKOM\" src=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RiverviewKOM-469x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"469\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RiverviewKOM-469x1024.jpg 469w, https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RiverviewKOM-137x300.jpg 137w, https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RiverviewKOM.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 469px) 100vw, 469px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3124\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">21.7 avg. yet 19 MPH max.?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>How did Juan average 21.7 MPH when his max speed on the segment was 19 MPH?\u00a0 Even better&#8230; how did these results rank him at 26th when all present on the ride know I chased a slower rider in a forward group to the top of this hill segment, in a brazen attempt to see if I could summit first and then I literally waited at the top of the hill for Juan to get to the top.\u00a0 I stopped and waited.\u00a0 And it wasn&#8217;t even recorded as my personal fasted time on that segment by my GPS.\u00a0 So is my Garmin Edge 500 to blame?\u00a0 Or is Juan&#8217;s iPhone 4s the culprit?\u00a0 The next questionable segment sheds some light on the blame.<\/p>\n<p>Here is another very odd result of this ride that does in fact decide a KOM.\u00a0 I&#8217;m happy, almost proud, Juan got this KOM because it was his first ever but&#8230;. there&#8217;s another problem.\u00a0 <em>I pulled Juan on this segment.\u00a0<\/em> The entire segment and in fact the entire road the segment is part of.\u00a0 His first comment to me upon seeing this KOM was &#8220;but you pulled me&#8221;.\u00a0\u00a0 This was so close that I can only attribute the 10th of a second difference to GPS variance because I was indeed in front, and <em>occasionally creating separation <\/em>up to 2-3 bike lengths that Juan would have to make up.\u00a0 Further segment analysis proves data collection is the likely offender.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the results of this KOM segment shown from Juan&#8217;s Strava profile and my own.\u00a0 Notice Juan&#8217;s top speed, 44.3 MPH.\u00a0 I assure you we never did 44 MPH on this segment.\u00a0 I&#8217;m confident because my bike was in front and my GPS reflects the more accurate 27.5 MPH top speed leaving me to believe it was Juan&#8217;s iPhone 4s skewing the results, giving Juan the KOM.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3125\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3125\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3125 \" title=\"KOM1\" src=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"393\" srcset=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM1.jpg 800w, https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM1-300x147.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3125\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Top speed 27 MPH.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3126 alignnone\" title=\"KOM2\" src=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"384\" srcset=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM2.jpg 800w, https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/KOM2-300x144.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Before jealousy and animosity are presumed please understand while I care if the rankings are correct, I could not care less if they result in accolades for myself.\u00a0 Like I said I&#8217;m happier Juan got his first KOM regardless of how it occurred technically than if I got another.\u00a0 However I will no longer put a lot of faith in top Strava rankings separated by a second or two since I now have personal experience and first hand evidence there is some level of GPS reliability or data analysis skewing results.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Got some first hand experience in the reliability of Strava rankings this weekend.\u00a0 Might be due to GPS variance but there may be more to it.\u00a0 Data collection and analysis may have something to do with it too.\u00a0 Either way, myself and others know the truth as of this weekends results.\u00a0 I give you exhibit &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/2016\/09\/26\/very-little-faith-in-strava-rankings-unreliable-gps-variance-may-be-to-blame\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Very little faith left in Strava rankings.  GPS variance may be to blame.<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3123","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-riding-cx-mtb","category-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3123","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3123"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3123\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3222,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3123\/revisions\/3222"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3123"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3123"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddsingleton.net\/chronicle\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3123"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}